vice presidential candidate paul ryan, you know, you just had to come in and nuke the moment, didn't you? >> it is time to get the real refs and you know what, it reminds me of president obama and the economy. if you can't get it right it's time to get out. >> all right. well, other than that, if we all agree, what is the hold-up? mitch albom is "outfront" tonight. he's author of "the time keeper." mitch, great to see you. it's obviously been reported two sides are meeting today. what are the odds that this is going to get settled? >> not so great. they are actually still pretty far apart. you would wonder why a league that makes $9 billion in revenue is worried about maybe about $10 million apart on a package for the referees, but it's a bit of a power struggle going on and those on the inside say even with all this controversy and these terrible -- it wasn't just that one, it was a whole weekend's worth of bad plays, it still may not be settled any time immediately. >> let's go through some of the sticking points, just because i found it so ironic that you have governors who don't